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Pomocy-Segitseg!

I'm looking for information about the Film Institute in Budapest;
1. Do they/What do they teach there? (i.e. history, production, technique,
etc.)
2. Where is it in Budapest? 
3. Is there a concentration on any particular style/period?

Thanks for any help/Koszonom

Tomek Jankowski
University of Buffalo

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In >  (Mark T. Palmos)
writes: 
>
>Hi People,
>
>Is it possible for "Mixed Marriages" to work?
>
>Black-White  --  Jew-Moslem  --  Christian-Jew
>Korean-Latino  --  Bosnian-Serbian  --  Japanese-Italian
>etc...
>
>What you think about "Mixed Marriages"?  
>Should they be encouraged or discouraged?

Why would you want to do either if you're not prejudiced?

Regards,
Ors Deak

Kedves Janos es Pal,
Koszonom szepen a segitsegeteket. A gyomrom majdnem kifordult es
a fejem elszedult.  Ehes vagyok......

Tisztelettel,
Wojtek

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In article >, T. Kocsis > says:
>>Serbian and Croatian monastic deeds  used Vlasi for
>>Romanians.
>
>Hence Aromanians lived around Dalmatia the usage of
>'Valsi' refers to their presence there,

The walls of the monastery of Zica recorded the names of 200
Vlachs. None of these has an Aromanian character, on the contrary
they suggest the North Vlach (i.e. "Daco-Romanian") dialect:
e.g., Mic, Bun, Bukur, Alun. Also, no Aromanian settlements
ever existed in Dalmatia.

>as you put it into
>words: " [..] the term "vlach" was also applied to Italians
>or to the 9th century latin-speakers living in the moun-
>tains of Dalmatia."
>
Yes, but using "the Vlakhi" for the Italians was not a rule but
rather an exception. Historians of the Middle Ages often used
interchangeable "Vlach" and "Romanian" but almost never
"Vlach" and "Italian" However, under no circumstances were the
Franks identified with the Vlachs.

A relevant example is the folowing quote from the Dictionary
of the Middle Ages, 1989, v.12, p.483:

     >>>The term "Vlach" refers to several groups of people
     descend from Latin speakers living in the Balkan
     Peninsula[...]<<<

I think you should agree that neither the Franks nor the Italians
are included here.

Even more precise is Britannica Online:
     >>>Vlach, also called Romanian or Ruman[...]<<<

Now, with respect to the Latin-speakers of Dalmatia the
issue gets hairy. Presbyter of Dioclea expressly identified
the Black Vlachs of Dalamtia with the roman colonials and
translated their name as "Nigri Latini". Perhaps they were
not actually Romanians but the recently extinct Dalmatians.
However, it is very tempting to stress that in the 9th century
the South Slavs seemed to make a distinction between the Macedonian
Belivlasi (White Vlahs) and the Black Vlachs of Dalmatia.


>>>Here some other villages , originaly established by Italian
>>>or French peasants, hence the name, 'olasz':
>
>>Yeah, yeah... but we are concerned neither with the Italians nor
>>with the French peasants but with the East Franks.
>
>Remember, Jelko's mentioned one: Olaszi - Francavilla. Here
>the Frank - Olasz connection is clear.

First, Jeliko has mentioned virtually no bibliographical
references that support his interpretation of the
Russian Primary Chronicle. I provided the above example
to suggest that his unsuported claim is derived from
a similarly suspect interpretation of Gesta Hungarorum
(see Gyorffy, 1970).

Secondly, the connection Frank--Olasz, as inferred from
the ambiguous translation Francavilla=Olaszi is far from
being clear and, more important, is irrelevant for the
interpretation of either Nestor's Vlakhs or Magister P.'s
Blacorum.

Francavilla, on the Adriatic coast, is in northern Italy.
The locality was probably founded by the German Longobards
late in the 6th century. The Longobards were gradually
romanized so that in 774 Charlemagne conquered practically
an "Italian" people. Therefore, it is no surprise if the
Magyars called "Olasz" (Italians) either the 9th century or
present-day people of Francavilla.

The question is, did the Magyars use the same
ethnicon for Arnulf and his East Franks ? Let's see:

By 800 the Germanic-speaking people east of the Rhine
had been incorporated into the Frankish  empire: in 843
they formed together a separate kingdom under the
Carolingian ruler Louis the German. The famous Oaths of
Strasbourg are pertinent here because one can prove what
was language was spoken by the East Franks. Charles the
Bald (king of the West Franks) addressed Louis' army in German
and Louis the German addressed  Charles' army in Romance.
The conclusion is that Charles's men spoke Romance and Louis's
warriors spoke German (Nelson, J.L., 1986, Public histories and
private histories in the work of Nithard. Speculum, 61, 251-293)

The Magyar "Olasz" (Italian) is derived from the Old Slavonic
"vlaxb". However, there is another relevant Old Slavonic loan
in Hungarian: "Nemet" from the Slavonic "nemets" meaning
initially "deaf" because the ancient  Slavs were not being able
to understand the German language (Kalman, B., 1978, The world
of names: A study in Hungarian onomatology. Akademiai kiado,
Budapest). This is way Olaszorszag means Italy and Nemetorszag
means Germany.

If the Magyars borrowed the Slavic "vlaxb"
for Romance-speaking people and "nemets" for German-speaking
people why in the world would one assume that they ever
used "olasz"for the German-speaking Franks? As a matter of
fact Arnulf, the Frank ruler that brought the Mayars
inside the Carpathian arch, spoke no Latin.

>I try to prove that there were no Vlakhs around when the
>Magyar tribes settled down.

Well, this is very obvious :-) Actually you are correct.
In the area where the Magyars first settled there was no
Vlakh. The Vlakhs were present in the area where the
Kavars first settled inside the Carpathian Basin ;-)

>That's why they picked up the
>word indirectly from the local Slavs who used it vaguely
>for any south-east foreigner (like Italians and East Franks).

Actually the early Slavs were very exact in their usage of the
word "vlaxb" and I think I proved it. I may be wrong but I
certainly agree with the vast majority of experts and disagree
only with you and Jeliko.

>If there had been Aromanic/Vlach people around, there
>wouldn't have been this confusion with the usage of the
>word. As Vlakhs appeared in the region, their name made
>its way - directly and unambigously- to Hungarian.

Come on Tamas, you can do better than that! I am sorry to say
but your reasoning is again based on fallacy. The Romanians
never called themselves "Vlahs"

Regards,

Liviu Iordache

In article >, "R. A. Cormier"
> wrote:

> Where is the best place to find a list of personal homepages in Hungary?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> R.A. Cormier
> 

Hollosi Information eXchange/HIX/ at :
      "http://hix.mit.edu/cgi-bin/ekezet.html/hix/"    or
   
Hungarian Home Page  at :
      "http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/homepage.html"

Dr.Janos B.v.KOPLYAY
,computize.com

Sziasztok!

   Mar jo ideje olvasok angol(vagy amerikai...) tobbsegi nyilatkozatokat ebben
a csoportban, de nem tudom megerteni a szerzok torekveset, illetve nem
tamogatom azt, hogy egy jolertesult, irasos hivatkozasokat bemutatni tudo
- tehat felkeszult - vitapartnerekkel (szandekosan nem irtam ellenseget)
csupan szivvel-lelekkel irt cikkekben felvegyuk a szoparbajt. 
  Azt hiszem, hogy ez tenyleg propaganda, tehat ennek megfeleloen vagy nem
kell ra reagalnunk, vagy, hasonloan, a szomszed csoportba kellene ellentetes 
tartalmu leveleket irkalnunk.
  Mivel mindket(harom, negy...) nyelvet ismerem, s ralatasom van mindket
kulturara, nem tartom helyesnek az asszimmetrikus <targyalast>, amennyiben 
ezt a fent emlitett szorgalmas hetilapmasolo uriember levelozonet ezzel a
fogalommal jellemezni lehet, ha pedig megis van olyan meltatlankodo, aki
ismereteit kelloen megalapozottnak veli ahhoz, hogy egy nacionalista
satorendszer utobbi 10 evenek termelesevel szembeszalljon, tegye ezt - csupan
azt javaslom, hogy a soc.culture.romanian csoportba kuldje vadpontjait.
  Neha nagyon szomoru vagyok, amikor a sokszor hallott, idezett cikkreszletek
koszontenek ram, amikor anyanyelvemen szeretnek par sort olvasni...

	Udv.
		Istvan

Azert, mert ez egy moderalatlan, szabad lista, ahova mindenki annyi marhasagot 
ir,
(amig nem terheli agyon a szervereket es nem kereskedelmi hirdetes) amenyit nag
yuri
jokedve tart. Egyebkent hagyjuk meg M.C. baratuknak, hogy ha tortenelemszemlele
te kisse
sajatsagos is legalabb bator ember. Puff bele az ellen orcajaba.
Illes )

In article >,  (CLARY
Olivier) wrote:

> In article >
 (Gabor Barsai) writes:
> >In article >, Janos Szamosfalvi
> wrote:
> >>me'g mind a mai napig nem tudtam ra'jo:nni arra hogy hogy tudom
> >>o"ket beu:tni.  (DECStation w/Ultrix + Tektronix Xterm's)
> >Pedig nadon egyszeru. Fogj egy kalapacsot, es ugyesen usd be oket a
kepernobe.
> 
> Ennél jobb módszerek is vannak: 1. xmodmap, 2. xterm "translations" resource,
> 3. a szövegszerkesztődön belül, pl. emacs.  A 2.-ra lásd (ott megtalálod
> a .Xdefaults-ot, gondolom, még ha nem is tudsz franciául):
>    ftp://ftp.ulaval.ca/contrib/yergeau/accents.faq
> -- Olivier

Koszonom!
(tudok franciaul)

--Janos