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1996-09-22
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Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: Unaffordability of Hungary and an unrelated questio (mind)  15 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Cultural Superiority Complex (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Sophistry (mind)  68 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Cultural Superiority Complex (mind)  21 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: Sophistry (mind)  29 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Cultural Superiority Complex (mind)  26 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: Hungarian Bible (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
8 $$COULD YOU USE A LOTTA XTRA CASH?$$ (mind)  162 sor     (cikkei)
9 going to Budapest (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Unaffordability of Hungary and an unrelated questio (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, Zoltan Szekely
> writes:

>It is worse than Victor Farias.                                  (Sz.
Zoli)
>
>

And Farias did a pretty thorough job of dissecting old Marty, didn't he?
You can't even get my last name right.
Sam Stowe

"I remember the book depository where
They crowned the King of Cuba..."
-- They Might Be Giants, "Purple Toupee"
+ - Re: Cultural Superiority Complex (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, Joe Szalai
> writes:

>And no, remedial reading courses are not offered at Waterloo.  That must
be
>an exclusively American programme, for obvious reasons.
>
>Joe Szalai

All the seats are reserved for Canadian students. Honest, I checked. Even
called Duke.
Sam Stowe

"I remember the book depository where
They crowned the King of Cuba..."
-- They Might Be Giants, "Purple Toupee"
+ - Re: Sophistry (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, "Eva S.
Balogh" > writes:

>  Zoli, I am coming to the conclusion that you misunderstand 75% of
>what Sam is telling you. His speech is full of wonderful irony and you
miss
>most of it. You miss all his jokes. I am getting more and more convinced
>that your lack of understanding idiomatic English is at the root of the
>problem.
>
>        Here is an example.
>
>        Sam said,
>
>>> A guy with your exquisite sensibilities ought to be haunting
>>> some Left Bank cafe, smoking Gauloises and talking earnestly about the
>>> philosophy of Fu'ko' Mihai. Just think -- France's gain would be our
loss.
>
>        Your answer,
>
>>What?! France's gain would be OUR loss? Who are you talking about?
>>About you and WHO?
>
>        The guy is you, Zoli. When Sam talks about "exquisite
sensibilities"
>he means exactly the opposite: he thinks that you have none. "France's
gain
>would be our loss" is again highly ironic. It means that if you with your
>"exquisite sensibilities" left this country and moved to France to be
part
>of the French intellectuals hanging out on the Left Bank, France would
would
>gain an intellectual giant like you and your moving away from here would
be
>an awful loss to the United States. Now surely, you understand now that
Sam
>is making fun of you.
>
>>> Born to laugh at hurricanes.
>
>>Hurricanes, actually, kill. The death toll of the last one in North
>>Carolina is more then 17 people. None of them is a friend or family
>>member of Sam, I assume.
>
>        Again, you don't understand Sam's English or his American sense
of
>humor. As you know Sam has had a share of hurricanes. This last time he
was
>out of electricity for a week and believe me that is no fun. He is not
>really laughing at hurricanes. He knows that they can kill but since he
is
>in a region where hurricanes are common he is resigned at encountering
>hurricanes with a certain frequency. That's all he is trying to say.
>
>        Work on your English. It is a wonderful language.
>
>        Eva Balogh

Zut alors! Eva is deconstructing me! I am honored and touched, both at the
same time. Yet I fear she is casting her pearls before swine. Zoltan is
the first Hungarian I've met who didn't seem to have a sense of humor.
Szekely's not a Romanian surname, is it?
Sam Stowe

"I remember the book depository where
They crowned the King of Cuba..."
-- They Might Be Giants, "Purple Toupee"
+ - Re: Cultural Superiority Complex (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 09:33 AM 9/20/96 -0400, Sam Stowe wrote:

>In article >, Zoltan Szekely
> writes:

<snip>
>>The real issue is that Clinton needs a military victory before
>>the election. If the military technique kills, well, it is the
>>problem of another country. U.S servicemen is not going to be
>>killed.
>>                                                       (Sz. Z)
>
>Yes, we need to invade someone else prior to the first Tuesday in
>November. That'll get Clinton votes. Worked for George Bush, didn't it?
>Screw Medicare reform. We wanna nuke Vanuatu.
>Sam Stowe

Tell me Sam, did most American men get aroused when Big Bill launched the
cruise missiles against Iraq?  Did you?

Joe Szalai
+ - Re: Sophistry (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>I already posted the slanderous lie, produced by Sam against me.
>I also said, if Sam would not support his claim by appropriate
>quotes from me, I would regard him a plain Internet crook.
>
>He never presented the quotes. Of course, because they don't exist.
>:-) ;-) ;-0
>
>> >Sam,
>> >
>> >you look really desparate about the French culture.
>> >You can not understand, that in a HUNGARY list it
>> >is not fair to attack somebody on the sole basis
>> >of his/her French origin. You would create the
>> >false impression in the reader, that Hungarians
>> >feed anti-French sentiments. I hope you understand
>> >that it is not nice.
>>
>> Coming from a guy who attacks people based on their Jewish heritage and/or
>> American origins, this is rich indeed. Do you have a sign taped to your
>> back that says "hypocrite"?
>
>I never attacked anybody based on their Jewish heritage and/or
>American origins. It is a simple lie, and a slanderous one.
>
>                                                     Sz. Zoli
 OK.you never attacked anybodys origin,but didn'tyou attacke american
culture,and America itself?
Andy.(this is not an attacke,only a question)>
>
+ - Re: Cultural Superiority Complex (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
 says...
>OK now. No, I think the mayor probably thoroughly understood the character
>of the original settlers of Jamestown, looked around the U.S.--probably
>visited California too, and had it right--if you understand that neither
>the original Jamestown or the modern U.S. probably constitute high points
>in civilization, generally... ;-)

Isn't the apogee, in both metaphorical and astronomical senses, hohoho ;-)
of all, ahem, civilization, epitomized by *The American Dream*? :-)

>I frankly think my current HMO's managers are direct descendants of the
> gold-seeking, lazy and bungling adventurers of Jamestown, and 3 of my
>current HOA board members have to be descendants of Cotton Mather and his
>bunch in old pre-liberal Massachusetts. You want the ultimate?  Get this,
>this is for real: my HEALTH MAINTENANCE Organization's (HMO's) CEO is
>named "Mr. HYDE."
>;-) :-(

That figures...and he doesn't even feel it necessary to have to hide
his frightening countenance by using his original name, Dr Jekyll!
That's what I like about Americans: they're so forward! :-)

--
George Szaszvari, DCPS Chess Club, 42 Alleyn Park, London SE21 7AA, UK
Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy ** Commodore=64...ICPUG ** NW London CC
+ - Re: Hungarian Bible (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Stowewrite wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I can obtain a Hungarian Bible on this side of the
> pond? A mailing address and/or phone number would be nice. Thanks in
> advance.
> Sam Stowe
>
> Born to laugh at hurricanes.Try the American Hungarian Baptist Church in
Alhambra, CA, 818-289-7746
+ - $$COULD YOU USE A LOTTA XTRA CASH?$$ (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

IT CAN AND DOES HAPPEN!!

 Taking 5 minutes to read what follows can change your life:

 HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND ON LOTTERIES?  AND HOW POOR ARE THE ODDS?
 HOW MUCH DOES $5 BUY AT MCDONALD'S?  AND DO YOU REALLY ENJOY IT?
 HOW MUCH DOES ONE MAGAZINE COST?  MORE THAN THIS DOES MOST LIKELY...

 I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me I could
 make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5.
 Who'd believe that?  It's a scam, right?  Wrong!

 *********************************
 ** Don't go away yet!
 ** READ ON!!!!!!!
 *********************************

 I thought it was a huge joke.  I spoke to my wife, attorney
 and friends about it, and they all agreed it was some kind
 of scam.  I can't stand scams, because usually someone gets
 burned, and I didn't want it to be me.  Of course, I rejected
 the idea at first.  After a short period of about two weeks,
 I thought "I have already heard of such things.  But on the
 Internet?!?".  I decided that even if I had to throw $5 into
 the fire, it wouldn't hurt my wallet that much, and gave it
 a try.  After all my wallet could sure use a LOT more than
 five dollars.

 Two weeks later, I began receiving money in the mail!  I
 could not believe it!  Soon hundreds, and then thousands of
 dollars began to roll in.  Within 4 weeks, I had received a
 total of $32,445!  It came from everywhere in the world.  My
 bank account has changed its "-" into a big "+" (++++)!!!
 I bought myself a car and things I had wanted for a long,
 long time for my wife and kids!

 If you follow the three steps below, there is no reason why
 the same shouldn't happen to you!  This is a legitimate
 investment opportunity.  You invest $5, and you receive a
 return on your investment.  So does the next investor.  NOT
 ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER- PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE.

 If you are not interested, then don't participate, but
 please print this article and pass it on to someone who may
 be interested, so they can take advantage.

 The procedure is simple:

 1) Write your name and address on 5 sheets of paper.
    Below that, write the words, "Please add me to your
    mailing list." Fold $1 note or bank draft or money
    order in each piece of paper and mail them to the
    following 5 addresses:

 1.  Vic Williams
     14307 Virtue Rd.
     Lenoir City, Tn 37772 USA

 2.  Bill Brown
     148 South Downlen #796
     Beaumont, Tx.  77707   USA

 3.  Olivier Arcadipane
     237 rue Francois Andre
     7390 Quaregnon    BELGIUM

 4.  BJ Connolly
     34 Nottawasaga Crescent,
     Brampton, Ontario,
     Canada, L6Z-1B9

 5.  Peter Lamoure
     18955 Ridgeview Circle
     Villa Park, CA 92861
     *USA*

 2) Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other
    four names up.  In other words, #5 becomes #4 and so on.
    Put your name as the fifth one on the list.   Use a simple
    text editor such as Notepad, in your  "accessories" window
    (If you have MS-Windows), or DOS editor.  In fact, any
    editor will do.

 3) Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups.  There are
    17,000, so it shouldn't be hard to find that many.  Try
    posting to as many newsgroups as you can,  and the bigger the
    newsgroup is, the more people are sure to see your message!

 You are now in the mail order investment business, and
 should start seeing returns within a week or two.  Of course,
 the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your return is.
 If you wish to remain anonymous, you may use a pseudonym,
 call yourself "The Manager", "The Boss", whatever but make
 sure your address is correct.

 Now, here is why the system works:

 -Of every 200 posts I made, I received 5 responses.  Yes,
 only 5.  You make $5 for every 200 posts with your name at #5.

 -Each person who sent you $1 now also makes 200 additional
 postings with your name at #4.  ie. 1000 postings.  On average
 therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at #4.
 $50.

 -Your 50 new agents make 200 postings each with your name at
 #3 or 10,000 postings.  Average return 500 people = $500.
 They make 200 postings each with your name at #2=100,000
 postings=5000 return at $1 each=$5000.

 -Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with your name at
 #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name drops
 off the list.  AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE MAKES 200
 POSTINGS!  Total income in one cycle=$55,000.

 From time to time, when you see your name no longer on the
 list, take the latest posting that appears in the newsgroups,
 and send out another $5, and put your name at #5, and start
 posting again.  Remember, 200 postings is only a guideline.
 The more you post, the greater the return.

 Let's review why you should do this.  THE ONLY COST IS $5, AND
 5 STAMPS, AND 5 ENVELOPES.  Anyone can afford $5 for such an
 effortless investment with such SPECTACULAR RETURNS.

 Some people have said to me, "What happens if the scheme is
 played out and no one sends me any money?"  Big Deal, so you
 lose $5-but what are the chances of that happening??  Do you
 think that NOBODY cares about a LEGAL chance of making such
 BIG money as $50,000.00????  And all for a microscopic
 investment of five separate dollars?  Just think of all of
 the new Internet users that join the net every day!!!

 There are millions of internet users, and millions of new
 net surfers every month!  This is the great plus of the
 Internet, people all over the world can hear you and will
 listen carefully if you talk reasonably.  Everyone will take
 that chance!  I agree, if it wasn't the Internet, and was a
 small circle of people, the chance wouldn't have been so
 small.  The amount of money had to be 200 times bigger, and
 the chances were zero.  It wouldn't succeed.

 But here, on the Internet, it is a giant village, where
 thousands of new members join every day!  You CAN'T lose!!!

 Remember- read the instructions carefully, and play fairly.
 That's the only way this will work.  Get a printout so you
 can refer back to this article easily.

 Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and
 always keep an eye on the postings to make sure everyone is
 playing fairly.  You know where your name should be.

 REMEMBER-HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.  YOU DO NOT NEED TO
 CHEAT THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!!  BESIDES, NOT PLAYING THE
 GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL.  SO LET'S BE REASONABLE AND PLAY
 FAIRLY, SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD MINE.

 GOOD LUCK FOR YOU ALL, and remember, play fair and you'll
 win, I don't want to mention what might happen to those who
 won't.   AND AGAIN, SEE YOU NEXT TIME WITH SOMETHING YOU'VE
 WANTED FOR A LONG TIME!!!
+ - going to Budapest (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hello. I'm going to Budapest for the first time. Can anyone tell me what
type of electricity the Hungarians use? Is it different from the
American system? Is it necessary to bring a converter (for American
hairdryers, for example)?

Also, what is the current exchange rate in Budapest? How much does one
dollar equal?

Finally, are there any Hungarian customs I should know about? Is there
anything Americans do that seems strange to Hungarians? (I will be
participating in a conference attended mostly by Hungarian and Russian
men: out of 70 participants, only 3 are women!)

Any advice is appreciated. Koszonom szepen!

Johanna Granville

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