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1995-03-20
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1 Vencel alias Laszlo (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Odds & Ends (mind)  8 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Vencel alias Laszlo (mind)  21 sor     (cikkei)
4 Budapest Airport (mind)  2 sor     (cikkei)
5 MTA Musicology Institute/MTA Folklore Dept. (mind)  7 sor     (cikkei)
6 Weather Help (mind)  10 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: Weather Help (mind)  21 sor     (cikkei)
8 Re: Vencel alias Laszlo (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
9 Foreign view of Hungary (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)
10 Soros Foundation (mind)  7 sor     (cikkei)
11 Re: fuel consumption of MIGs (mind)  27 sor     (cikkei)
12 Re: MTA Musicology Institute/MTA Folklore Dept. (mind)  19 sor     (cikkei)
13 Washington DC area Benefit Violin Recital (mind)  41 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Vencel alias Laszlo (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Ivan Marki wrote:
> Barna Bozoki provides the interesting information about King Vencel that
> he was crowned "Laszlo I."

        The 1s in Laszlo's name that Barna wrote stand for the diacritics
over the preceding vowels, and are not to be confused with the order in
which our "good king" Wenceslaus is reckoned (which at one point was
_really_ Laszlo V). 8-))))

        Norb


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+ - Re: Odds & Ends (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>Hugh Agnew asks for the Hungarian name of the Przemyslid king of
>Hungary. The name is Vencel. Ladislav V is doubly wrong: Ladislav is, of
>course, not a Hungarian name, and Laszlo V, who lived from 1440 to 1457,

Well, the foreign kings with the Wladislav name are known in Hungarian
history as Ulaszlo.  Was this one of them?

Joe
+ - Re: Vencel alias Laszlo (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Ivan Marki writes:
>Barna Bozoki provides the interesting information about King Vencel that
>he was crowned "Laszlo I." I would appreciate your letting me know what
>the source of your information is. Standard sources list four Laszlos

1. I did not write that he was crowned "Laszlo I.", I wrote "La1szlo1",
which in cyberneese means "La'szlo'". Until now I assumed that the least
confusing way to transmit information about diacritics is to put numbers after
the characters involved. A <1> after the letter <a> and <o> in Laszlo means
that in Hungarian you suppose to put an acute accent on these characters.
See the "Hungarian FAQ" as a reference to this convention.

2. I am not sure, that I should reveal my reference, it will shock you.
But if you insist I tell you. Please sit down:
    Ruffy Pe1ter: Korona1nk ko2nyve (A book about our crown), Mo1ra
    Ko2nyvkiado1, Budapest, 1981. p60.
I know this is not, the most authoritative historical reference, but I am
still grateful to you for those provocative words (doubly wrong) which
prompted me to re-read a part of this interesting book.

Barna Bozoki
+ - Budapest Airport (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Does any-one know about the expension of the budapest Airport and does it fall
under the privatization agreement and is it going to go ahead?
+ - MTA Musicology Institute/MTA Folklore Dept. (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hi, all of you!
Can somebody lead me to a working e-mail address within these
departments?  Is there a special Hungarian newgroup dealing specifically
with Hungarian folk music and folklore?  If it is available only in
Hungarian, that's good, too because I speak it at the native level.
Your help in this search is highly appreciated.  Arjun Sabharwal,
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.
+ - Weather Help (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Sorry to intrude here, but Im travelling to Budapest this week for
my first visit and would be grateful if someone could e-mail me an
idea of the likely weather and temperatures.

Ta very much.



--
Keith Wootten
+ - Re: Weather Help (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Keith,
The weather changes rapidly around this time.  I haven't lived in BP for
the past eleven years, but I can guarantee you that over a period of one
week, you can see many changes.  So, my advice is that you take warm clothes
, an umbrella, and some light clothes just in case it does get nice.  Good
advice is also available from the Hungarian embassy.  you can call them up.
Good luck. Arjun.

On Sun, 19 Mar 1995, Keith Wootten wrote:

> Sorry to intrude here, but Im travelling to Budapest this week for
> my first visit and would be grateful if someone could e-mail me an
> idea of the likely weather and temperatures.
>
> Ta very much.
>
> 
>
> --
> Keith Wootten
>
+ - Re: Vencel alias Laszlo (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Thanks for reference, and my apologies for misreading the diacritic 1.

Ivan Marki
+ - Foreign view of Hungary (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

There was an article in the New York Times (March 19) on Slovakia and I found
the following aside in it:

"What's going on here is nothing like what's going on in some other parts of
Central and Eastern Europe,'' a foreign diplomat said. "Meciar is a very
skillful populist politician and a bit of an opportunist, but the `former
Communist' stuff is vastly overplayed. It fits in Poland, maybe in Hungary
and certainly in the Balkans, but here there's a very different dynamic."

So, this is how a foreign diplomat sees Hungary! Rather sad!

Eva Balogh
+ - Soros Foundation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hi.  I'm interested in the activities of the Soros Foundation in
Hungary.  I have a copy of Soros' book "Underwriting Democracy in
Eastern Europe".  I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any other sources
of information.  Thanks!

Bob Mitchell

+ - Re: fuel consumption of MIGs (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>S. Zoltani wrote:
> > Unfortunately, the choices in equipment purchases are often political.
> > Some of the Hungarian leadership are still wedded to their old handlers
> > in Moscow, much to the detriment of the Hungarian people.

Andras Kornai wrote:
> Are we to understand that the US planes were cheaper and Hungary is buying
> inferior but more expensive equipment for political reasons?  Without
> contesting the point that these MIGs are inferior to US or Swedish planes it
> seems likely they are quite comparable (possibly identical) to what most
> other countries in the region have. "Only the best will do" sounds great but
> I'm afraid "szege1ny ember vi1zzel fo3z" is more like it for Hungary.

I recall some relevant press reports from the time of German reunification.

The Bundeswehr got to play with all the military toys inherited from the
DDR, and its pilots were very much impressed by the performance and
manoeuvrability of the MIG 29.  I think we can accept their word for it,
as they would have a good basis for comparisons.

> Leaving price out and considering performance by itself is not very useful,
> and in this case the MIG price/performance ratio has a compelling advantage,
> since the price is effectively zero.

Exactly.

George Antony
+ - Re: MTA Musicology Institute/MTA Folklore Dept. (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

You wrote:

>
>Hi, all of you!
>Can somebody lead me to a working e-mail address within these
>departments?  Is there a special Hungarian newgroup dealing
specifically
>with Hungarian folk music and folklore?  If it is available only in
>Hungarian, that's good, too because I speak it at the native level.
>Your help in this search is highly appreciated.  Arjun Sabharwal,
>University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.
>
>
Arjun,

I, too, would be interested in such a list. I don't think there is
one(at least in english). The usernet folk-dancing.rec sometimes deals
with Hungarian folk dancing and recently listed dance camps this summer
in Transylvania
+ - Washington DC area Benefit Violin Recital (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

What:           Recital to raise money to support establishment of
                the Rev. Attila Csongvay Memorial Clinic in the
                village of Szentgerice (Galatini), Transylvania,
                Romania, the location of our Unitarian partner church.
                The recital will be followed by a reception with
                refreshments.

Featuring:      Octavian Slima  violinist with the U.S. Airforce
                                Orchestra.

Accompanist:    Judy Harrison   pianist, Music Director of the
                                Fairfax Unitarian Church.

Music:          Vivaldi:        Four Seasons
                Mozart:         Sonata K454
                Bach:           Solo Sonata
                DeSarasate:     Zigeunerweisen

When:           Sunday afternoon, April 9, 1995, 3:00 PM.

Where:          Fairfax Unitarian Church
                2709 Hunter Mill Road
                Oakton, Virgina

Directions:     Beltway to I-66 west, exit I-66 at Route 123
                (Hunter Mill Road) toward Oakton.  Go to third
                stop light to Hunter Mill Road (at Appalachian
                Outfitters store).  Turn left onto Hunter Mill
                Road, go about a mile.  Turn right into parking
                lot of Fairfax Unitarian Church at low wooden
                church sign.  It's just past the Morman Church.

Donation:       $12.00

Questions?      Call:  703-860-2504  Bob Tripp
                       703-323-8293  Emery Lazar
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